Comments on: Remote Training Collars

By: Irene Widdows

Irene Widdows — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:27:27 +0000

If you can do this with a shock collar, why wouldn’t you just go without
the collar and have the dog respond in the exact same way to a sound you
make, such as smoochy noise or something similar? You seem like you would
be really good at using positive reinforcement methods with your patience
and fairness, I just don’t see the need for shock at all. Anybody can buy
these collars, and the average owner just doesn’t have the skill, patience
and timing to correctly use something like this. It seems dangerous to
advocate its use, especially when most people only want to use one so they
can push a button to ‘stop’ their dog’s unwanted behaviour instead of
actually train the dog.

By: Izzie Keyes

Izzie Keyes — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:09 +0000

This is a perfect example of just how you condition a dog to a clicker or
reinforcer cue. No different with this tool. Anyone can strap it on and
they’ll likely never notice it. Unless you condition them to notice it,
then even the smallest little ‘nick’ is registered in there brain. Just
like the “click’ that’s always followed by a treat, they hear it rooms
away.

By: Izzie Keyes

Izzie Keyes — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:28:04 +0000

So why would an ecollar be horrible if it’s providing a teaching an
activity they’d never get to do, with ‘positive positive only people
methods’ my dogs deserve a well rounded education. Not one sided. It’s made
them better dogs, better pets and closer friends. I fully intend on using
the ecollar on myself. However see the way dogs pull and wrestle with each
other with no reaction around their neck. So the idea that their
traumatized or scared cuz of a rando. Vibration on their neck is obserd,

By: Izzie Keyes

Izzie Keyes — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:25:58 +0000

Foundations from a very early age. The concept of coming when called amidst
hundreds of distractions is a completely foreign idea to them and I’d never
put myself through the endless hours and hours and hours and frustration
that would come from TRYINGTO. Clicker train a recall. Not would I feel
safe if anything unpredicted were to happen, I very much look forward to
the course with that’s my dog this April, I want my dogs to enjoy
everything about being a dog, never being off leash isn’t fair

By: Izzie Keyes

Izzie Keyes — Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:24:08 +0000

Haters gunna hate. At the end of the day it’s trainers that are balanced
like us that can make the biggest difference in dogs around us, we don’t
limit their possibilities based on our own factual or otherwise opinions. I
have three rescue dogs, all over the age of 1 and all fairly dominant in
personality. I love them to death, we do rally, disc, agility, tricks you
name it. Clicker training, cesars way, you name it. I will never trust my
dogs off leash anywhere, because I didn’t put down

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:12:16 +0000

@aweshon Thanks!! 😀

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:09:42 +0000

gee, I sure am sorry the ratios here don’t suit your opinion.

By: MsEfrye

MsEfrye — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:25:24 +0000

Thank you for showing shock collars are not torture. Some people think I am
mean by using one but the dog has never shown fear or pain when wearing it.
It is an awesome tool.

By: chimeraluna

chimeraluna — Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:48:18 +0000

it just makes noise not shocks. Perhaps you should watch a video more
closely before sharing opinions that are not helpful or thought enducing.
Your comment should get a lot of attention except you were in a big hurry
to show how unintelligent you are. Oh, and by the way, it’s control not
controll !!!!

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:32:54 +0000

I’ve changed the title and taken out the ? about +R, perhaps the title
change will make this video less offensive to some… perhaps not….but my
goal is to get information out on other ways to use the tool, not to create
a pissing match with people who are upset by using language to create
thought….Happy Thanksgiving to all!

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:56:11 +0000

@MsBmm13 Thank you. I do my best to treat people respectfully. My dad
taught me that. Science has not proven that the way that I use this
tool causes a fallout. Since I have done it nearly 10 year and many, many
dogs in this small community…I just don’t believe that there is fallout.
The opposite has been the effect. People flock here, even from far away
because they have heard what I achieve. (please don’t take that as
boastful, it is just true) …more to come but youtube limits space..

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:18:23 +0000

@MsBmm13 but you can turn it up to a level that is pretty uncomfortable if
there is a need for punishment. That is part of the versatility of the
tool. Fortunately when training the way that I do, that is very rarely
needed, which again…is why I am trying to educate on alternative
thinking/using this tool.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:46:31 +0000

@crysania4 fair comment. I did bring up the analogy. Sometimes I am edgy
cause I get a good amount of hate, name calling and threats sent my
way..the abuse/kids stuff is used often..thought we might be heading down
that path…Have you ever had e-stim (TENS Unit) at a chiropracter? In my
opinion a decent e-collar feels exactly the same. There are 3 levels, too
low (can’t feel), too high (makes me jump) just right. I attempt to use the
e-collar with the same thought process.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:32:23 +0000

@lillytimelord I don’t disagree that some trainers or jqp can use them
horribly. But it is a fact that they are VERY popular tools available on
the mass market to pretty much anyone…my opinion is than lets at least
teach people a better way to use them rather than frustration and blast the
crap out of a dog. I also understand there are philosophical differences
about training and some may NEVER want to use an e-collar. That is a choice
I understand and respect, but it isn’t everyone’s choice.

By: crysania4

crysania4 — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:02:57 +0000

@ThatsMyDogInc But following this train of thought it still makes no sense.
You walk up to your children and tap them to get their attention. I do that
with my dog on occasion too, but she’s learned to listen for my voice
because my voice means awesome things. So if you wanted to get your
children’s attention from a distance (e.g. they’re at the park playing with
friends and you want to call them to come home), how do you do it? Do you
put a shock collar on them too?

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:04:38 +0000

@crysania4 because information of both yes and no creates faster learning.
Why do they create GPS units that tell you when you make a wrong turn? Why
not just congratulate you when you are on the right course and ignore
everything else? Or perhaps managers should instruct new employees the same
way? How long does it take then to get to an end goal? Again, my stance is
that the no information does not have to be painful. Stim is a sensation
but I also understand many do not see it that way.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:21:39 +0000

@MsBmm13 HI, I am not counter-conditioning stim to be a reward marker
(although I am sure it could be done if that was the objective) Why use
treats to acclimate a dog to anything (ex:head halter)? Food lessens any
possible negative reaction/counter conditions the animals response to it.
Later when used as an invisible leash to gain attention (yes; stim CAN be
just attention getting and not painful) there is no surprise or negative
effect. The dog’s first learning experience is return = food.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:00:05 +0000

@badtrainersgoaway I’ve studied techniques from many you recommend. And
admire much of their work. I understand there are those who do not believe
in remote collars and those who would not choose to use them. While I
respect others for their personal chose. I believe remote collars do have a
place and therefore it is important to learn to use them in a proper way
which includes understanding early collar conditioning exercise such as one
demonstrated here.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:43:25 +0000

@DestructionFilmsINC and No, it did not hurt. Stimulation need not hurt in
order to gain attention. Stimulation from a TENS unit (which is virtually
identical in technology) does not hurt, but there is really no way to
ignore it when used at the level of the recipients tactile perception.

By: DestructionFilmsINC

DestructionFilmsINC — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:02:06 +0000

@ThatsMyDogInc answer this then, I want so see you make a video where you
use the level you use for your dogs and put the collar against your neck.
And tell me it doesnt hurt.

By: Pat Robertson

Pat Robertson — Tue, 24 May 2011 21:17:47 +0000

I was at your presentation in Toronto….beautiful communication going on
in this video. I just love it.

By: Christopher Johnnson

Christopher Johnnson — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:10:08 +0000

@ThatsMyDogInc Then I ask you, WHY do people react so sensitive at this? So
there must be something wrong using such methods! The fact is E-collars are
still very painful, that’s why they work so good. And tail wagging doesn’t
always mean happiness, the dog can wag his tail even if he is in fear or
pain, he just does it to please you. He doesn’t know that you are the
person who cause pain!

By: nopiluvin

nopiluvin — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:00:28 +0000

I have a siberian husky and his attention is very very hard to grasp. I
understand that huskies are this way by nature, but would you promote using
a shock collar on him? He listens and does commands such as sit, laydown,
shake, knuckles, wait, stay but the big one that he does NOT do is come on
command. I don’t want him to run away which is a common thing for huskies
if not leashed. This is where I am on the lines of getting a shock collar
for him.

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:28:29 +0000

@guy2932 I do add in an audible cue (unless the dog is deaf) by pairing the
verbal w/tap there is greater success in getting attention. Just like
touching a distracted child (ex.playing video games) while telling them to
come for dinner works better than repeating and repeating. The physical
sensation is harder to tune out than the voice alone. As to why, teach what
I do? Because education is needed to help people learn a better way. I hope
to create a paradigm shift and help more people & dogs

By: ThatsMyDogInc

ThatsMyDogInc — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 02:03:50 +0000

Hello pamelamarxsen, Thanks for the good question. The value of using the
collar is that you can then use this cue/prompt when the dog is off leash.
The positive introduction creates a good early association with the
stimulation and carries over into later training. You can also balance out
the training with negative reinforcement later as needed to create a very
reliable off leash recall (that stands up to high distraction) in a very
short amount of time. (a week or two usually).